10 year challenge(r)

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 01/17/2019 at 12:31 • Filed to: 10 year challenge, challenger, dodge challenger, 2019 dodge challenger, 2009 dodge challenger

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2009

2019

oh.

Well, at least this thing has changed:

2009 Charger 

2019 Charger 

WilliamsSW > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 12:31

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Nissan: Hold my beer:

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > WilliamsSW 01/17/2019 at 12:32

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Liar! you posted two pictures of the same car!

Include GT-R to this as well

WilliamsSW > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 12:32

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Let’s have a contest to see who can ID the 2009.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 12:34

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at least the inside changed.

2009

2019

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > WilliamsSW 01/17/2019 at 12:36

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I’m guessing the bottom one, it’s wheel look better, and wheel design has gotten worse in the last 10 years.

WilliamsSW > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 01/17/2019 at 12:38

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Yeah, that’s correct - and I really like the wheels on the ‘09.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 01/17/2019 at 12:39

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The newer interior is a very nice place to spend some time.

functionoverfashion > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 12:39

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Wow, that’s... an old platform. And yet because it’s “retro-inspired” it doesn’t look any older/newer, at least to me.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > WilliamsSW 01/17/2019 at 12:39

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that was purely a guess, and I’ m sad I was right. Flat faced wheels need to die. I dont care if they are more aero dynamic they look like butt. 

WilliamsSW > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 12:40

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This one might be harder than the Z.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 01/17/2019 at 12:40

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Yeah I never sat in one, but it’s also the same as the Charger adn Durango a nd I liked both of those a lot. 

WilliamsSW > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 01/17/2019 at 12:44

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There are a few cars that they work on, but generally nope - that needs to go away.  

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > WilliamsSW 01/17/2019 at 12:45

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I can undersstand it on hybrid, and electrics. but not sports cars. 

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 12:46

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The shape has always been good on the chally but they refined a few details. I didn’t really like them when they came out, but I really like them now. Also, in a landscape of over-styled and fussy designs with weak “character lines” that start and stop with reckless abandon, it’s refreshing to see a strong and simple design.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > WilliamsSW 01/17/2019 at 12:46

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Just going by the pixels I’d say the better quality pic is of the 2019 model

way2blu does a rev update > WilliamsSW 01/17/2019 at 12:47

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First is a 2019, second one is the ‘09.

I window-shop for these, both new and used, on the internet. That’s how I know.

3point8isgreat > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 01/17/2019 at 12:48

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Ugghhh I wish my Magnum had that new interior.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > 3point8isgreat 01/17/2019 at 12:49

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go buy a wrecked challenger and swap it. there only a couple thousand of them around. altho if the airbags are set off that would be a problem. 

WilliamsSW > way2blu does a rev update 01/17/2019 at 12:52

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The wheels are the giveaway to my uneducated eye  - and I really prefer the 2009 wheels.

WilliamsSW > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 12:54

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Yeah, but I happened to grab a Nissan photo of the 2018 (no 2019 yet - the redesign is finally coming I think?), and some random DOTS photo of the 2009.

Nothing > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 12:56

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I’d post two pictures of a Frontier, but I’m afraid even google couldn’t tell the difference.

At least the Sequoia has a little 2” matte bar on the grill to differentiate from older models, thank goodness!

WilliamsSW > Nothing 01/17/2019 at 13:10

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Dude you need a VIN tag to tell them apart.

Tristan > SPAMBot - Horse Doctor 01/17/2019 at 13:23

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Exactly. They've refined a good thing, no reason to throw it away and start over. Unless they can shed 1,000 pounds from it, that is.

Urambo Tauro > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 13:34

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Despite its age, I haven’t grown tired of the Challenger yet. Except for that rear quarter visibility... It’s way overdue for improvement, and I’m sure other things are too.

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > Tristan 01/17/2019 at 13:43

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A new chassis that is not a cow would be nice, but this iteration is in a class of one. Not everyone wants a balls to the wall sports car. Just a big, comfy GT car that has good looks, eats up high speed miles, and isn’t terrible when you find yourself on a back road.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > WilliamsSW 01/17/2019 at 13:44

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You can’t trick me!

One of those is a 350Z and the other is a 370Z.

Tristan > SPAMBot - Horse Doctor 01/17/2019 at 13:53

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I owned a Magnum RT (Chally’s even fatter sister) for a while, and while it’s a very heavy car with somewhat numb steering, I was always pretty impressed with how well it controlled its weight on twisty roads. Under/oversteer were easy and predictable, and there was very little body roll. When you look at these cars on their own, they’re not bad at all. B ut when you compare them to the harder-edge performance cars, they falter. The most disappointing aspect of my Magnum was the fact that it was marketed as a muscle car and tuned like a minivan with aggressive torque management, a lazy and indecisive automatic transmission, 2.43:1 (IIRC) rear gearing, whisper-quiet exhaust, and traction control that can’t be turned off. If the stars were aligned juuuuust right it could be somewhat fast in a straight line.  

benjrblant > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 14:14

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Isn’t this mostly what happened with the PT cruiser too? It was popular, cool, and got relatively decent mpgs when it came out. ten years of production with no worthwile updates later, and it’s old, dated, gets poor mpgs, and has become a sign of being a square.

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > Tristan 01/17/2019 at 14:18

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That is a bummer to hear about the Magnum. I wish they would bring it back with updated styling and actually make it a performance car like the other two. Scat pack (or even hellcat), with a stick, performance suspension, and big brembos. Make a cheaper E63, basically. I know the market for this is next to nothing though. Or, launch with a demon version to get the hype up. A 10 second station wagon might be what we need to get off this CUV trend lol

OmerCarrothers333 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 14:19

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Welp, at least Ferd changes the Mustang from time to time.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > WilliamsSW 01/17/2019 at 14:27

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A thousand pardons kind sir, may I speak with you about EJ257?

Tristan > SPAMBot - Horse Doctor 01/17/2019 at 14:30

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I would actually buy  beg my wife in utter futility for one, and hope they might one day depreciate enough for me to buy one.

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > Tristan 01/17/2019 at 14:38

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I think that is the issue. Everyone who would want one, would only buy one used haha

Otto-the-Croatian-'Whoops my Volvo is a sedan' > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 15:54

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If it ain’t broke...

CobraJoe > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/17/2019 at 17:04

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I got an ‘05 Titan. Looks exactly the same as a ‘16 Titan.

But I see nothing wrong with keeping a chassis around for a decade or more. It reduces development costs, reduces retooling costs, and lets the engineering behind it get completely ironed out.

The only negative is that it doesn’t give as much of a reason to buy new instead of used, though the Challenger fixes that problem by keeping used V8s expensive.  

WilliamsSW > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much 01/17/2019 at 17:37

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The only thing more sad than keeping the same design for 10 years is keeping the same engine for 10 years...

WilliamsSW > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks 01/17/2019 at 17:37

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Ha - I *think* they’re both 370Zs - that car came out in 2009?

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > WilliamsSW 01/17/2019 at 17:48

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Of course, it’s irrelevant, since they’re both the same under the skin.

WilliamsSW > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks 01/17/2019 at 17:50

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and date to two thousand freaking three.